What does /r/CryptoCurrency think of the recent "outbreak" of Bitcoin forks/clones?
FeatherCoin, ByteCoin, BBQCoin... To some extent diversity is a good thing, but this is getting a bit ridiculous, isn't it? I fear that in the long run people won't be able to take cryptocurrencies seriously if there are one hundred different coins, and this could be a very real problem that goes past people playing with toy cryptomoney. Thoughts?
Since we've all been goxxed now is the time to buy those $50-60 coins floating around and profit from everybody else's misery. Or you could wait for Gox to come back online and crash down the price even further but good luck trying to do any trading there to buy coins, the trading engine is already broken I don't expect the new one to work flawlessly due to epic 3yr history of GOXXING BTC-E.com To pay into this exchange, you need a BTC-E code, PM or Okpay. Take pics of your ID and utility bill and pay the $10 to Okpay for 'quick verification'. You can pay bitcoins directly into your Okpay account for initial funding or wait and see how long it takes for reg verification. Now either wire money, or instant money transfer (MoneyPolo, Contact-sys, Unistream) to fund your account or find an Okpay exchanger somewhere. Or Ukash/CashU. Just because contact-sys is Russian doesn't mean there aren't sending points in every country in the world. BTC-E codes you buy on #bitcoin-otc from verified gpg authenticated traders with good ratings, or on bitcointalk.org forums in the currency exchange forums. Perfect Money is a shady HYIP digital currency run by Russians much like Liberty Reserve. You sign up for free, and load your account with wires (if verified) or you use an exchanger. This is what talkgold.com is for to find legit exchangers. I use wm-center.com to wire WU/Moneygram and get PM. Click on 'Interkassa' payment method in BTC-E and select Perfect Money. Instant load. You can also obviously dump Litecoins you bought on Vircurex to fund the account, or a gagillion PPcoins Bitfloor.com Fastest way to deposit is through CapitalOne P2P or cash deposit https://bitfloor.com/docs/#funding-deposit Be aware Bitfloor is insolvent due to owing 25k bitcoins that were stolen last year but they have a repayment schedule that may or may not bankrupt them. Use at own risk but most ppl trade there everyday with no problems. Bitstamp.net Great exchange in Slovakia? I think. You have to pay with Euro SEPA wire, then for some stupid reason they convert the money to USD. You can pay in here using transferwise.com if you're from UK, or XEtrade and other Forex online money transfer companies. Google 'free money transfer fx' and review your options. Most don't charge you anything if over a certain amount of money. They take your internet billing or other local payment, convert to EUR and send SEPA for you if you request it. If they don't then check with Bitstamp what a SWIFT wire costs (probably nothing, I think they use Latvian banks that charge no receiving fees). If you want a bank account in Latvia then sign up here: http://www.rietumu.com/ if you have a local corporation or business where you live you can, maybe a personal account too. You can always incorporate a dirt cheap Delaware LLC or Oregon LLC from anywhere in the world and use it to open up worldwide bank accounts. Bitcoin-24.com Takes direct wires, all sorts of other methods: https://bitcoin-24.com/fees You can also use Liqpay if you have a USD or EUR card. Sign up to liqpay.com, then they block a small verification amount you have to sign into internet banking (for the card) to check. It's usually $1.something or less. After that you are verified to load $1-100 or so, but I'd just try $50 at first. Any more than that and Liqpay will seize the funds and ask for your bank to authorize a fax they send which no bank will do because of privacy reasons, so pointless to load anymore money. Liqpay may also call you to verify card details this is normal. Liqpay is meant for Russians and CIS countries to use like Ukraine so due to epic fraud of credit cards don't expect to load too much this way unless you find a Liqpay exchanger, but what's the point when you can just wire money to bitcoin-24 anyways. Vircurex.com Good exchange, had some problems due to DDoS but so did all exchanges. They only accept BTC, altcoins and VouchX for payment. You buy Vouchx here: https://www.aurumxchange.com/ or from somebody on Bitcointalk, or IRC (with rep). You can buy a bunch of litecoins anywhere to fund this exchange such as the bitcointalk forums or IRC. Warning: the so-called official twitter account is fake, don't use it. Cavirtex.com Can only fund if in Canada, they accept cash deposit and internet billing. Price has been steady at ~$90 all day though no panic selling. LibertyBit.com https://www.libertybit.com/funding various easy methods, new exchange in Canada that takes intl wires and shockingly Interac deposits (easily frauded). Bitcoin China https://btcchina.com/ fast growing exchange, you pay in with Alipay or Tenpay both Chinese methods that westerners can't use or figure out due to no translation. You can probably use Alipay if you find and exchanger to load it, they do exist. **Edit they now support Liberty Reserve deposit and withdrawal Check english forums to see if anybody exchanging Alipay or taking wires. CampBX.com Accepts money orders, and CapitalOne P2P payments. Also accepts Dwolla but you need to be verified. Bitcoin-central.net Just had a major outage due to instawallet hack, appears to be back online. You get your own quasi-bank account when you verify here much like how ecardone.com (liberty reserve) does banking so can transfer to other users legally with vouchers. You can buy a voucher p2p on Bitcointalk forums or IRC or send a bankwire. VirWoX.com You can pay with Paypal to get Second Life "Linden Dollars" then convert to BTC, or at least you used to be able to. I have no idea if this is still the case I've never used them. Or course there's all the fixed price exchangers https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0 for everything from Moneypak to Skrill. You can also risk buying coins on Silk Road with moneypak ==============R U L E S ================================
Learn to use #bitcoin-otc, you'll thank me later. It has the most buying/sell options. Use localbitcoins.com too if you can to avoid bullshit exchange problems
ALWAYS USE 2-FACTOR ID ON EVERY EXCHANGE
Always use 2-factor ID on the email you used to sign up for the exchange
Don't click any links in BTC-E.com chat trollbox!!!
Don't click any links PM'd to you on BTC-E.com from other users
Enjoy buying all the way down the crash once Gox comes back online and the great sell off begins! Hold them for a year and they'll be worth 10x as much just like the 2011 crash. Bonus points if you speculate on Litecoin, rumor has it Gox will be trading them when they come back online but again, this is MtGox we are talking about so the site could implode on the zerg rush of people trying to get into their accounts or trading engine could sell all your coins for $0.0001 again like they did in 2011. Great successez!
Coin-a-Day Jan 3rd Well, it's been more than a month since my last post, so I figured it's time to finally do this. I'm barely updating these, but I think it's somewhat interesting to see the changes that have happened over the almost half a year since I first wrote these. Welcome to the third Coin-a-DayCoin-a-Week post! So far in this series we have talked about bitcoinbitcoin and dogecoindogecoin, which are proof-of-work coins. Today's coin is Peercoin (PPC), which is a "proof-of-stake" coin (actually a hybrid; more below). Summary • ~22 million available currently ; ~35 million in 2025, ~50 million in 2045, 1% annual inflation permanently  • All-time high: ~$7  • Current price: ~$0.50; ~0.0017 BTC$0.30; 0.00128 BTC  • Current market cap: ~$10.9 million $6.6 million  • Block rate (average): 10 minutes  • Transaction rate: 520 408 transactions in the last 24 hours, estimated ~$213,000 $83,600  • Transaction limit (currently): 7 transactions / second (?)  • Transaction cost: Fixed at 0.01 PPC edit: per Kb  • Rich list: Top 100 addresses hold 59.25% 59.52%  • Exchanges: BTC-E mostly; BTC38 (Chinese); some volume on Cryptsy, The Rock Trading, and BTER as well  • Processing method: Hybrid; proof-of-work and proof-of-stake • Distribution method: proof-of-work block rewards and 1% inflation through proof-of-stake • Community: Moderately active.  • Code / development: https://github.com/ppcoin/ppcoin ; appears inactive, last release in April, last commit five months ago; however, developer Sunny King continues to give weekly updates and has announced an upcoming "cold-minting" feature  EDIT: Active pull request in progress. pull request; announcement; I was informed about this from the comment below; thanks Thireus ! Latest 0.5 version will be a mandatory upgrade with a two month release window.  • Innovation or special value: First coin with proof-of-stake Description: So far we have covered two proof-of-work coins. This was the original type of coin. Peercoin introduced the concept of "proof-of-stake", where authority to generate a block was determined based on a brute-force hashing to reach a value less than a certain amount. In Peercoin's proof-of-staking, there is only one to check per unspent wallet-output per second, so there is very little demand for processing power and energy. The difficulty is decreased with increased coindays . This model is argued by Peercoin supporters to be more efficient, since it obviates the need for a hardware arms-race and allows transaction processing by all stakeholders. The incentive for the stakeholders to "stake" (process transactions through proof-of-stake) is two-fold: first, in order to collect their 1% per coin-year reward, and second, to support the network they hold coins in, since the value of the coin is presumed to be related to the stability and reliability of its network. There are a number of attacks which are argued to be possible in proof-of-stake which are not possible in proof-of-work . There was a vulnerability which allowed generating a larger number of proof-of-stake blocks with a very small stake which took four months to close after public disclosure . I wish I could provide a definitive answer about the security or vulnerability of this coin, but I am simply unaware of a good source at this point . I have not found a "smoking gun" critique of the current system, but absence of proof, particularly when my "research" (googling) is so limited, and my exposure is so brief, is absolutely not to be taken for proof of absence. Today's challenge will focus on the security of Peercoin, and there will be a small reward for the best defense and the best critique. Compared to the question of "is it secure?", I think the rest of the nuances like price history are relatively insignificant. In general, I expect that secure coins will continue to be transacted at some price level, and that they will often share a certain level of correlated price. Remember that I am not giving advice, but that's my take on it. So if there is no vulnerability to proof-of-stake, I expect it will continue to exist. And just as bitcoin has a strong place from being the first and having an active community, I expect that Peercoin would continue to have a place as the first proof-of-stake along with its smaller but also active community. I had my concerns about the security resolved when this was posted. Like a whiny chump I'd gone through and deleted all of my stuff in a fit of pique, but the useful comments by TotalB00n are still there and may be useful reading. The inactive development may not be an issue for now if there are no serious threats to Peercoin. Additionally, its blockchain is quite small, about 1/3rd of a Gigabyte currently, so the major feature of bitcoin's latest release, parallel block downloads, may be less relevant for peercoin. [Note that the edit above on the code section is from the original time around. I'm too lazy to even look up whether or not there has been further development since, but it was at least somewhat active before, and perhaps didn't really need much.] Community Peercoin's community on Reddit (/peercoin) is relatively small, with less than 4k subscribers and no more than a couple posts a day. However, it appears on-topic and high-quality. http://www.peercointalk.org/ looks active and significant. It is not comparable in size to a central hub like bitcointalk, but it is by no means dead. There are additional community links on peercoin.net which I haven't explored. Footnotes  http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/peercoin/  https://github.com/ppcoin/ppcoin/wiki/FAQ  http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/paippc/usd/btc-e/alltime I couldn't find anything just stating the number. And the UI here is terrible. But this approximately matches the coinmarketcap ATH in BTC with the BTC/USD at the time.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peercoin#Confirmations ; I wasn't sure if this accounted for PoS accurately as well, but given the last few hours shown at https://bkchain.org/ppc it does appear to be close ; don't ask me how it works, haven't taken the time to grok the whitepaper in detail yet ()  https://bitinfocharts.com/ppcoin/  I wasn't able to find a source addressing this. I'm presuming that since it's based on bitcoin and has 10 minute blocks, that it also shares the 1 Mb blocksize limit and that transactions are about the same size and thus the same 7 transactions / second current limit applies. I could absolutely be wrong about this; if you know better, please let me know and I will update. Given that this allows 604,800 transactions per day, and there weren't 0.1% as many transactions in the last 24 hours, I think it's safe to say this isn't a limiting factor for peercoin in the foreseeable future.  http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/peercoin/#markets  Not as active as doge or bitcoin, but it looks like there's activity on http://www.peercointalk.org/, and /peercoin is quiet but not dead.  http://www.peercoin.net/assets/papepeercoin-paper.pdf ; also available in many other languages (http://peercoin.net/whitepaper)  http://www.reddit.com/CryptoCurrency/comments/2r6sqb/section_of_paycoins_source_code_designating_a/cnd096x110101002 makes allegations along these lines. However, none of the critiques seem to be relevant and aware of the current Peercoin code. The claim is made that it was made centralized but I'm not aware of a Peercoin source that seems to make this claim. There are probably far better critiques and defenses of the security of Peercoin's proof-of-stake out there. I don't know how to best find them. This will be the topic for the challenges for this article.  disclosure; acknowledgement; fix  I have heard claims about "nothing-at-stake" attacks, which are based on the idea that a user might have stake in the system, then get the stake back, sell it, and then try to make their own chain building off the point where they had stake. This seems conceivable to me, but I do not know anywhere near enough to be able to make a reasonable argument one way or another. Unfortunately, most of the discussions on Proof-of-Stake seem more about ... well, there's no way to phrase it politely, but they don't seem to be reasoned consideration of the merits but just static. http://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=2351.0 - This is an example of a critique which is shot down. Is it valid? You decide. From reading their view of it, it sounds like not.  http://www.reddit.com/peercoin  I found this relatively late in my process glancing over /peercoin. http://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=3733 The details of this feature will be considered out-of-scope for this article, already taking longer than I anticipated (as usual).  https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4107.0 Additional Reading • http://www.peercoin.net - main site; informative and useful links • /peercoin - somewhat quiet but still active and informative • https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=793142.msg8933791#msg8933791 - Peercoin discussion thread • Peercoin whitepaper - (other languages available) • peercointalk.org - Main discussion forum Daily challenge ~~Every day I post a challenge worth about $1. The first two day's are still unattempted. Yesterday's has been awarded. Today's challenge focuses on Peercoin security. A changetip $0.50 tip will be awarded to the comment which in my opinion provides the best information about vulnerabilities in Peercoin's current consensus algorithm / implementation. This may be a link to a source that provides this information or a comment, but a comment referencing fixed problems or simply asserting issues without support will not be accepted as qualifying. On the other side will be a 1 PPC reward sent to the Peercoin address of your choice for the best argument supported with evidence that Peercoin's consensus algorithm is not vulnerable to any attack. This is a very broad claim, and I wouldn't know how to support it myself, but that's why I'm throwing it out there for discussion. Making an argument for both sides is allowed and encouraged.~~ [I don't remember if I ever paid up on this. I think I might owe TotalB00n a couple PPC...] Donations and Disclosure It has come time again for me to note that I am not an authority nor should my words be used for anything other than entertainment. I am not providing investment advice and you should do your own research independently before you make any investment decisions. Cryptocurrencies may lose all value from technical flaws or simply a loss of faith in their value. Store your treasures in heaven, not on earth nor even in a blockchain. Be gentle and loving in deed and in thought. I currently hold about 17 PPC. If you would like to donate PPC to me directly, you may do so at: PDcpAFGWEAJDTey6ghY4FRvvphXv9zkjmn Thank you all for reading and all of your support! This has already been a great experience for me and I'm looking forward to the excitement still to come. Well, it doesn't get much lazier than that. Apparently PPC has dropped in price rather significantly since January. I don't know any of the news on it. Informative, eh? ...okay, I'll do a mild amount of "research". One moment. Well, they have a new release coming out.  But I don't see anything obvious from a quick glance at top stories in that subreddit over the past year to see why it crashed over the last five months. So...hey, let's go really lazy. Rather than me giving you the answers, why don't you tell me wtf happened here? xD Up next: Nyancoin!
Lightspeed Venture Partners predicts PPCoin will survive, to be among top 5 alt-coins.
Anyone notice PPCoin on the list of predictions of 2014 from Lightspeed Ventures? On their list at #3:
3. There will be less than 5 alt-coins (out of the 50+ in existence) that will survive 2014 The open source nature of the Bitcoin protocol led to the advent of over 50+ alt-coins, most of which are blatant rip-offs with a tweak or two here and there. These can be divided into three categories
Coins which are Ponzi schemes, where the sole purpose of the inventor is to drive the price of the alt-coin up and them dump
Coins which can be mined easily and can have potentially more liquidity than Bitcoin
Coins, which are based on a fundamental innovation and can result in specific adoption or security led use cases.
In my opinion, only the category 3 ones would survive. PPC coin, which has introduced a proof-of-stake system in addition to proof-of-work is one such coin. It is in my list of survivors.
Hi gang, Some guy came over and forced PPC in front of me. I have looked into it, for maybe an hour. I read this paper, and probably understood 70%, I was most interested in proof-of-stake. I have read the wiki a few times now. I know bitcoin quite well, and mined it. On that reddit I didn't get enough corrections. I have some questions / theoretical misunderstandings that I would be delighted if you could answer. I cannot see that PPC is a superior system to BTC (but assume you know it to be)
I worry that proof-of-dinner does not incentivise technological development, I wonder if this is an issue (it sounds like it would be).
I fear that PPC would be mined by a hard-core ancient elite, who were the only ones who could make any money out of mining. They could then be considered 'a centralised mining force' and I assume that PPC is interested in the strength of the network (ie - non centralisation), as bitcoin is.
Maybe it would be in stakeholders interest to form super-pools.
I assume that a 51% attack is still a technical worry (but is supposedly less likely under this system).
I wonder if a 51% attack could be carried out by the major stakeholders, or their children.
I assume that bitcoin is less vulnerable (probably not at all vulnerable now) to a 51% because the network is now strong enough, and that because PPC's network is not a strong (but still, an amazing 10% of bitcoin!?) then it's still technically more susceptible to 51%.
In summary, it seems to me that PPC incentivised miners to be loyal in the early days, and also not to sell. This drove up prices, and protected from a 51% in the very early days. Now it seems that mining is not profitable (for you or I) even if we get hold of some Expensive mining equipment. Using my limited understanding of both, it seems bitcoin is the better design, because it uses the idea that 'we are stronger together' and that everything is network driven. I truly welcome your thoughts and corrections.
Disclaimer; Do not overly rely on the information below, a large part of this is speculation, and while I have done a bit of research I do not claim to be any kind of authority on PPC. If you find any mistakes please inform me and I will attempt to fix them ASAP. What ppc has going for it
PPC is relatively fast compared to most other crypto currencies, and has a fixed transaction fee unlike other crypto currencies such as bitcoin.
Is so far the only crypto coin built on the idea of proof of stake(yet). [Why should this matter?; In cryptocurrencies based of proof of work, things like confirmations(e.g; a lot of exchanges require 3 to ten confirmations before they accept your bitcoin) are done when blocks are mined, this is fine as long as blocks are being mined, but when an error occurs(like TRC yesterday) where a difficulty adjustment results in a large amount of the miners leaving, the currency grinds to a halt and no transactions can be completed. With proof of stake coins which have allready been mined carry out these functions, so ppcoin can continue to function even in the absence of miners.]
Energy Efficency; This leads to Peer to Peer Coin's third advantage, not being dependent of miners like other crypto currencies PPcoin is free to be energy efficient. Explanation; Bitcoin miners are buying bigger and bigger machines and using more and more electricity to generate Bitcoins, while not too much of a problem on this scale if Bitcoin ever becomes as big and as accepted a means of payment as credit cards or paypal the amount of power being consumed globally would be staggering, and very very inefficient(as all this is being wasted aside from the generation of Bitcoins.) PPC however adjusts difficulty geometrically as the popularity of PPC grows. So in such a scenario while the value of PPcoin might be astronomical, difficulty would scale so that it would be financially unprofitable for too many people to be mining. And thanks to proof of stake PPcoin would continue to function in such a situation.
Growing acceptability; PPC is being adopted by bigger exchanges such as BTC-e on the fifth of april, as well as hints of ppc at mtgox. Additionally PPC now has the third hightest Market Capitalization
Summary; PPC is fast, reliable, resistant to scenario's which cripple other altcoins, and is designed for the long term, and seems to be slowly growing in acceptability. What is going against PPC
While it has potential very few places currently exist which accept PPcoin. Bitcoin is now becoming accepted in several "real" shops, while litecoin now has it's own silkroad in the form of Atlantis. PPC unfortunately(like many of the other altcurrencys) does not yet have any such marketplace, and its only current use is the purchase of bitcoins.
PPC's value is currently fluctuating heavily, Vircurex's server issues right before BTC-e's implemetaion of PPC resulted in PPC experiencing its first major bubble in its first few hours unlike most other altcurrencys first few weeks.* *[mostly speculation; This might be as people knew that the supply of ppc would rise as soon as Vircurex came online, and were determined to sell before this lowered the value of ppc. Combined with people focusing on TRC as it was added to BTC-e first, and being suprised when due to the miner issue PPC reached the market first, and overbidding in their haste.]
A more temporary issue; PPC might soon be flooded as Vircurex comes back online, and if people panic and flood the market with this additional supply. HOWEVER given that the current price of PPC is currently equal or below the level of ppc prices before Vircurex closed, and additional currencies are in Vircurex the price of ppc might not actually fall all too much as people might refuse to sell at a loss.
Conclusion; While PPC is designed to be used on a wide scale, and seems to be growing in acceptability, it doesn't yet have enough services, and is facing a risk of collapse. So if PPC survives its current difficulties it should grow to equal and eventually exceed litecoins, but only if it manages to weather it's current pricing issues. edit; so if you want to help PPC succeed, please build services which accept ppc. edit 2; Issue three has passed. Hooray.
(NB: typos mine; crappy OCR software. If anyone wants to see the Eliott Wave he's discussing and I'll make it available.) Bitcoin Bubble or Bitcoin Breakthrough? How about both? by Elliott Prechter December 20, 2013 in the Elliott Wave Theorist EWT discussed Bitcoin for the first time in August 2010, when the currency traded at six cents. As far as we know, EWI was the first financial publisher to discuss it. Bitcoin was unknown to the general public and off private investors’ radar. Even the earliest adopters did not take it as seriously as they should have. The most notable example of this is the man who paid 10,000 BTC for a pizza. This pizza purchase is now famous (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=l37.0), and many continue to track its price in USD terms via the “Bitcoin Pizza Index," which recently hit an all-time high of over S12 million. Fast forward to today, and the currency is regularly featured in financial news and social media. Bitcoin Magazine has become popular, Congress is holding hearings on the currency, Germany has defined its role in finance, China is ruling on its legality, and the business world is adopting it. The most prominent business to embrace Bitcoin is Virgin Galactic, one of the many creations of billionaire Richard Branson (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101220710). EWT readers were prepared for all this. When Bitcoin was still in the shadows, the August 2012 issue said,
Presuming bitcoin succeeds as the world’s best currency-and I believe it will-it should rise many more multiples in value over the years. -EWT, August 2012
The big question on the minds of investors is not what Bitcoin has achieved, but should they buy Bitcoins now? It’s amusing that so many people ignored Bitcoin upon hearing about it in 20 1 0, but now that its price has gone up 20,000 times, they want to invest. Notwithstanding the currency’s potential, this shift in attitude is a signal saying now is not the time to buy. Let’s look at four areas of evidence: 1) Optimism is off the charts. Past issues of The Elliott Wave Financial Forecast discussed people selling their homes and borrowing money to invest in Bitcoins. That was near the peak of wave Now the desire to buy has grown even more extreme. Bloggers are calling for Bitcoin to reach S1 million. . .soon. One young investor borrowed a million dollars from his father and without his knowledge invested it in Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359228.0). The other day I walked into a convenience store wearing a Bitcoin T-shirt, and the owner asked me if he should invest now. I felt like I was living in 1929. 2) Investors have recently been rushing to buy a rash of 95 (at last count; see https://bitcointalk. org/index.php?topic=l34179.0) new clones of Bitcoin that have recently emerged: Litecoin, Namecoin, Zerocoin, BBQCoin, PPcoin, PrimeCoin, NovaCoin, FeatherCoin, TerraCoin, Devcoin, Megacoin, Mincoin, DigitalCoin, Anoncoin, Worldcoin, Freicoin, IxCoin... and more. (That they are clones is obvious from the lack of imagination in naming.) This rush of clones is reminiscent of the South Sea bubble of 1720 and the dot-com mania of 1999, when shares of zero-profit, copycat companies (and even fake ones) sold like hotcakes. Virtually every week now, the Bitcoin code is forked into a new coin that investors bid up. lt’s as if buyers feel the world will run out of cryptocurrency, which in fact is infinitely and freely duplicable. 3) The Elliott wave pattern from Bitcoin’s inception shows five waves up. The December ll Short Term Update noted that a major top was potentially in place: The peak [in Bitcoin] came 10 days after U.S. officials, ranging from an assistant attorney general with the Department of Justice to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, “spoke approvingly of the potential of virtual currencies." So, here again, the government is getting on board at the very tail end ofa long rise. Since we posted that comment, Bitcoin has fallen an additional 40%, bringing it down nearly 60% from its all-time high. Will this prove to be just another brief, sharp correction or something larger? Take a look at the completed impulse pattern shown in Figure 3. The structure begins very near the inception of the currency three-plus years ago, when it was selling for a penny. Notice that wave @ is a triangle (see text, p.49), which typically comes in the fourth-wave position. Wave a thrust, carried to the all-time high of S 1242 on November 29. The reversal from that point should mark the start of the largest bear market to date in the currency. This forecast is in tune with the anticipated bear market in the broader stock averages, which have strongly correlated with Bitcoin’s pattern. The chart is in log scale to show the returns one would have achieved in each impulse leg of the pattern. Wave Q) achieved a stunning 3 19ox gain. Wave ® achieved 59.3% (a Fibonacci 3/5) of the gain of wave Q). Wave ® (measured from the low of wave @) achieved 39.3% (a Fibonacci 2/5) of the gain of wave (D and 66.3% (a Fibonacci 2/3) of the gain of wave Therefore, while each upward move has been large, each successive wave has been decelerating in log terms relative to past waves, in each case by a Fibonacci multiple. Also notice that Bitcoin trades more like a commodity than a stock, with its blow-off tops and extended fifih waves. Most of the gain since early 20 12 has been within (5) of ® and the final wave all of which is probable retracement territory. 4) Most people involved in this mania seem oblivious to Bitcoin’s fundamentals. In my experience, raising these issues publicly earns scorn for spreading “FUD.” But there is a good reason-now widely ignored-that Bitcoin is beta software. Our August 2010 piece explained how Bitcoin operates, but it’s worth revisiting some details to understand just how out-of-touch investor expectations are with the reality of Bitcoin technology. Specifically, let's examine the limitations of Bitcoin’s blockchain. The blockchain is the heart of Bitcoin. In its simplest form, the blockchain is a public ledger of all transactions that happen in the Bitcoin network. Each block is composed of individual records that track the ownership of each coin. The transactions “fit” together cryptographically. A block is created about once every 10 minutes by the network. Each block is then cryptographically linked to the previous blocks in the chain, forming a history of all transactions that-to Bitcoin’s credit-cannot be forged. To the extent that Bitcoin currency is real, it could be said that the blockchain is the Bitcoin currency. Yet the core problem with the blockchain is that it grows over time and must be shared by every fiill Bitcoin node. Today it is nearing 13 GB in size. Now, 13 GB doesn't sound too large, but at the current rates of exponential growth the blockchain is projected to become over a terabyte in size in just three years. What's more, the amount of accompanying data required to handle just a fraction of Visa-level traffic would overwhelm even the fastest Internet connections. This technical hurdle makes the “Bitcoin is going to a million” commentary seem premature. The hope for Bitcoin’s future lies in its open-source nature, allowing it to be improved, and Moore’s Law. Moore’s Law is colloquially used to signify the exponential increases in computer-hardware efficiency over time, including network capacity. But Moore’s law-which calls for a doubling of computer speed every two years-has hit a snag in recent years: the rate of improvement in performance has dramatically slowed, causing many experts to call for the end of the operation of Moore’s law. (For the record, Moore’s Law was never intended to refer to computer hardware performance, but the media have confused the term to the point where it is now generally used in this context. Originally, it was intended to refer to the increase in the number of transistors that are packed into microchips.) The past four years have been an exciting ride for Bitcoin. But the evidence says the Bitcoin bull market is done for now. It would be best to put Bitcoin out of your mind for the duration of the deflationary wave that is curling toward the financial world. Due to the psychology surrounding Bitcoin, as well as its correlation with the stock indices, it is too risky to buy now. Due to its open-source nature, however, Bitcoin’s infrastructure should continue to improve over the years. For the long run, I agree with Roger Ver, the CEO of memory dealers and one of Bitcoin’s earliest adopters, who recently said, “It is just getting started." But one could have said that about the U.S. stock market in 1966. It would have been visionary only if you were patient and willing to hold through a very deep valley. Our position is that Bitcoin will never again sell for 6 cents, as it did when EWT first wrote it up. But there will be another time to buy it for relative peanuts alongside stocks, real-estate, gold and silver. When the time comes, no one will be interested. Elliott Prechter's primary task at EWI is working on EWA VES, our in-house artificial intelligence softwarefor analyzing Elliott waves.
I saw this link in /bitcoin. Is it possible to mine ppcoins with one of these rigs? According to dustcoin, you could mine about 530 ppcoins per day with 18Gh/s. With ppcoins at $0.20, that is $106 per day. You would make up the price of your rig in about ten days (not accounting for difficulty increases). And with CoinMKT launching soon, it would be easy to cash out (although I haven't done any ppcoin trading, so I don't know how easy it would be to offload that many coins per day). I don't think such a rig is is worth it to mine in bitcoins, as I think the difficult will continue to increase exponentially. What do you guys think will happen to the ppcoin difficulty in the next couple months? Another big risk is the future of ppcoin. By the time you get your mining rig, ppcoin could be dead. EDIT: Forgot to include the group guy at BitcoinTalk, this is where you can get the Avalon rig from.
Hi guys, I want to get started with PPCoin but I am a total beginner. While understand many of the underlying concepts, I wonder what is the best way to purchase PPCoin with USD. The following is obviously important to me:
Security - What exchange sites are genuienly trustworthy
Fair Exchange rate - What is the best way to ensure getting a fair exchange rate.
I am seeing two variables: a) Buying first BitCoins and then exchanging for PPCoins or Buying BitCoins directly with USD b) Selecting the right exchange in terms of trustworthiness and fair price. The prices seem to differ quite a bit from exchange to exchange.
When I decided to write this guide, I was throwing cryptocurrencies around like they were nothing. I was foolish in the fact that I disregarded the exchange fees that are attached with the services that those exchanges provided. I'm in by no means a cryptocurrency genius, and I'm still not extremely seasoned at it, but I've learned enough about cryptocurrencies in the past month that I feel confident to pass on the knowledge I have learned and to help those who are overwhelmed on where to start. So what exactly is a cryptocurrency? According to technopedia (n.d.) a Cryptocurrency is a type of digital currency that is based on cryptography. Cryptocurrency uses cryptography for security, making it difficult to counterfeit. Public and private keys are often used to transfer the currency from one person to another. When mining cryptocurrencies, one important concept needs to be established, and that's hash rate. Hash rate is simply a unit of measurement of processing power. The more your hash rate is, the more profitable mining becomes. This guide uses specific sites and software, chosen by myself, as a great springboard into the cryptocurrency world. These sites and software are extremely flexible, easy to use, and integrate very well together. The mining pools I've chosen are multiple currency pools, designed to consolidate a major of the cryptocurrencies together, and instead of using several mining pools, you use three. These are the things you'll need to get started: MultiMiner Accounts at Coinotron, The Mining Pool Co., and BitMinter Accounts at Cryptsy and Coinbase There are a few different ways to mine for cryptocurrencies, the common of which are using your Central Processing Unit (CPU), Graphics Processing Unit (GPU), and Application Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) devices. CPU based mining is not profitable any longer, and will cost you money in the end by increasing electricity costs. GPU based mining is still popular, but losing steam against ASIC based mining. If you choose to use your GPU for mining, AMD/ATI based graphics cards (especially the Radeon HD 79xx series of cards), are the most efficient. If you have an nVidia based graphics card, I'm sorry. You can still mine on nVidia cards, but your hash rates are going to be much slower when compared to their AMD/ATI counterparts. If you chose to use GPU mining, Black Friday or Cyber Monday are you best bets for upgrading your equipment. ASIC based mining is quickly losing value with the changing difficulty on all networks, but it's the most cost effective way to increase your hash rate, and see a positive return on any equipment purchases. If my math is correct, using the methods in this guide, in order for any ASIC device to yield a positive cash flow, you've got to get a device that has at least a 5Gh/s rate (such as the Butterfly Labs Jalapeno). Now for the fun part, explaining how everything in this well greased machine is going to work. Patience plays a big part in the cryptocurrency world, and when I first started, I had none. I was so eager to see the amount of Bitcoin go up, regardless of how much I was getting penalized in fees from trading. So, that's the first step on your journey. PATIENCE. I CANNOT emphasize this enough. Sometimes, you've just got to hurry up and wait, the effects of waiting things out on the cryptocurrency market WILL PAY OFF. Step one of this machine is signing up for all three pools (BitMinter, Coinotron, and Mining Pool Co.). This is so that you can actually get server addresses to plug into MultiMiner, after signing up for these services though, you've still got a ways to go. Step two is sign up for Cryptsy. I chose Cryptsy because of the features they're going to offer at a later time, as well as support for 60 cryptocurrencies (which covers all but one of which we can mine). When your Cryptsy account is setup, you will need to go into the Balances portion of Cryptsy, and find all of the currencies in which you will be mining from the pools. Once Balances are loaded up, you will need to click on the Actions button next to the currency, and click Deposit / Autosell, and then Generate Address. There's a small clipboard near the address it generated, and that will copy the address for pasting in the mining pool websites. You will want to copy, and paste all of them to a text document, along with which currency it belongs to. Not only does this keep you from juggling back and forth trying to figure out things, but it helps for reference and setting up MultiMiner. Once you have those accounts setup, you'll want to sign up for Coinbase. A WORD OF WARNING FOR THOSE WHO ARE PARANOID... Coinbase will want to link to a bank account, this is mandatory if you want to trade your currencies for cash. If you want to trade currencies, just for the sake of trading, then you can skip Coinbase altogether. You can transfer your Bitcoins from Cryptsy straight into Coinbase, and then sell the Bitcoins from Coinbase, and straight into your designated bank account. MultiMiner, oh how amazing you are. For every cryptocurrency available in all pools, you will need to add these coins, along with server addresses, log-ins and passwords. To do so, click on the drop down next to the Settings button, and click Coins. From there, click on Add Coin, and choose each coin from a pool. This will list it in the box to the left, and give you the ability to add information on the right. You can add multiple servers as well, in case the current server you're mining on goes down. After all your coins are setup, you'll need to setup your Strategies. Click the drop down next to Settings, and chose Strategies. Check the Enable Strategies check box, choosing Straight Profitability from the drop down, and checking the Strategy every five minutes (that way you're not losing money by mining something that has dropped in price). This aggressive price checking makes it to where you're always on top with whatever you're mining. Also make sure you have Mine the Single Most Profitable Coin selected. Stick with CoinChoose as your price source (under Settings), as CoinWarz charges for there services beyond a certain point. Click Start, and take a vacation. Reading the charts on Cryptsy can be a little tricky, and scary if you've never saw those types of graphs before. Those graphs are called Candlestick Charts, and are used primarily in the stock market. I won't go in to great detail on this, however, you can find a nice cheat sheet on the subject here. I hope everyone enjoyed the guide, sorry for being punctual and brief, but there isn't anything too elaborate of complicated about searching for cryptocurrencies. I love mining as a hobby, mining's fun, and if there is any money to be made off of mining from my end, great, if not, I had fun mining. While compiling a spreadsheet of the minable currencies in this guide, if everything is set up correctly (and assuming servers aren't down), you should be able to mine the following:
And while Mining Pool Co. offers ASICcoin and Unobtainium, ASICcoin isn't supported in MultiMiner, and Unobtanium isn't supported in Cryptsy. I still mine for Unobtanium in hopes that Cryptsy will include it one day. References Cryptocurrency. (n.d.). In technopedia. Retrieved from http://www.technopedia.com/
Exchange page (List all the exchanges that trades our coin)
Branding page (Show our logo, payment logo, eps and png for the images)
Functionality: 1. Calculate the price of the altcoin based on the price of Bitcoins from Coinbase 2. Forward to Coinbase page with the right prices. 3. Forward to Paypal page with the right prices. Required Skills: - HTML/CSS - Design Icons - Small design changes Time required: - 2 days of full work? Payment: 0.5BTC
[WTS] Selling PS3, controllers, old games/dvds, Sony Cybershot (DSC-W350), Android 2.2 Epad with case keyboard. General "Garage sale"
Accepting Bitcoins, Litecoins, and PPCoins as acceptable forms of payment. Price listed below or best offer by weekend. 4th Gen PS3 2 controllers, 3 games = $175 Gamecube/Wii games = $3 Movies = $3 Sony Cybershot (DSC-W350) + 2gb SD memorycard = $45 http://imgur.com/a/ZuigS#0 http://imgur.com/qvDbfC7 image of movies. Purple Alienware Desktop PC : Windows XP home premium, D925XCV motherboard, P4 3.0ghz processor, 2Gb DDR2 ram, 500Gb hd, Nvidea 7600 GS video card. Case is huge and has some visible age. Runs very smooth. Clean OS. Comes with Alienware Windows Recovery CD. Purple PC = $200 http://imgur.com/YTnvo3y,8TTnXMF#1 *updates *Epad sold *PS3 Bundle best offer $170 *CyberShot Camera best offer $30
PPCoin moves up to third position for market capitalisation, only behind Bitcoin and Litecoin!
Great news for PPCoin holders! PPCoin has overtaken old favourite Namecoin and moved into third position for market capitalisation! Market cap is an important economic indicator which numerically represents the size and 'value' of the coin. Note that Novacoin which has a high price is languishing way down in position number 7. Here is the list: Bitcoin - 10,999,725 btc Litecoin - 283,207 btc PPCoin - 51,642 btc Namecoin -51,642 btc Devcoin - 51,642 btc Terracoin - 12,656 btc Novacoin - 6,258 btc See the list at http://dustcoin.com/mining
Anyone know of an index fund for cryptocurrency much like the S&P 500 weighted by market cap?
I made a quick excel sheet to do just that using dustcoin.com. But i'm wondering if there already exists index funds to do that. I was thinking of rebalancing every 1 month or maybe 2 weeks? Here is what it looks like:
Market Cap Price Percent of Bitcoin MarketCap Input Total Market Cap Input
Bitcoin 11013150 1 1 96.50202662 11412351 100 LiteCoin 364201 0.02199564 0.033069649 3.191288105 PPCoin 35000 0.00189994 0.003178019 0.306685275 So 96% to bitcoin, 3.2% to litecoin, and .31% to PP coin. This way you bet on just cryptocurrency with no bias to any other currency.
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